I forgot to include these tweets in a previous story about the Texas Church shootings. I did pick up on a conversation going on between 2 guys on Facebook almost along the same lines.First, the tweets...
thoughts and prayers for people who were mowed down in a church sounds especially hollow.— Karen Tumulty (@ktumulty) November 5, 2017
They were in church. They had the prayers shot right out of them. Maybe try something else.— Michael McKean (@MJMcKean) November 5, 2017
“Thoughts and prayers” again, @realDonaldTrump, idiot? These people were in CHURCH. They WERE praying. pic.twitter.com/AABiR7Jnfo— Keith Olbermann (@KeithOlbermann) November 5, 2017
The murdered victims were in a church. If prayers did anything, they'd still be alive, you worthless sack of shit. https://t.co/iGHxPrYrLN— Wil Wheaton (@wilw) November 5, 2017
One thing to note about those who rail against religion, and try to debunk it in the case of a tragedy like this: they're all arrogating to themselves the right to tell God how he/she/it must conduct him/her/itself. They aren't asking for explanations - they're providing them, according to their perspective, and more or less explicitly rejecting anything that doesn't fit their preconceptions (including the existence [or otherwise] of God, the operation of grace, and so on).
I'm not out to convince anyone of God's existence. I believe He does; but talking about it won't persuade many people. It's my job to live my belief, so that others may see in my life (rather than hear about) the fruits of my faith. That's why, when people want to tell me what they believe, I respectfully say to (or of) them I'd prefer that they showed me. (As the famous quotation, wrongly attributed to St. Francis of Assisi but undoubtedly based on his teachings, says: "Preach the gospel at all times. If necessary, use words.")
Another aspect is the issue of gun control. Yes, the gunman was aided in his violence by the possession of an AR15-type rifle; but if he hadn't had access to it, there are many other ways in which he could have killed as many, if not more victims. For example, the worst school massacre in America didn't involve firearms, except for the perpetrator's suicide; explosives were the weapon of choice. Some of the worst nightclub disasters around the world (e.g. Happy Land in New York, USA; Blue Bird Café in Montreal, Canada; Whisky Au Go Go in Brisbane, Australia; etc.) involved arson using gasoline, not firearms. In almost all the incidents mentioned, casualties were higher (sometimes much higher) than they were in yesterday's shooting.
You can't stop criminal actions by banning things. You can only stop them by stopping the people who commit them. The tools used are basically irrelevant....
There are estimates there may be 660 million firearms in circulation in the USA. Just how does anyone expect a gun control law to confiscate them all - particularly when those of us who value our Second Amendment rights have no intention of surrendering them? Another estimate is over a trillion rounds of ammo. Maybe you saw the picture?
There is still information coming out about the church shooting. Those who are using it to attack religious faith, or agitate for more gun control, know no more than the rest of us; yet they're gleefully piling on with their attacks and their insinuations. They're dancing in the blood of the victims. I don't know any other way to describe their behavior.